Big East expands; ACC ponders its next move

While the Big East made its move by adding Tulane in all sports and East Carolina in football only starting in 2014, Atlantic Coast Conference commissioner John Swofford was attempting to form a consensus about what move the ACC will make after losing Maryland to the Big Ten last week.

Two conference calls among ACC member schools came up with three different agenda.

1. Stay at 13 teams in football with the hope that Notre Dame eventually decides it wants to give up its football independence.

2. Add just one school, but the battle over whether to take Louisville or UConn remains with neither school receiving the 3/4 votes necessary.

3. Add three teams, which would top the ACC out at 16 schools in football, but create an imbalance of 17 teams (Notre Dame is joining the ACC in all sports but football) in basketball. While adding UConn and Louisville are consensus picks as an entry, there is no clear-cut favorite for the third school. A compromise could be to add only two schools to stay at 15 teams in football–again hoping that Notre Dame eventually changes its mind–and 16 teams in basketball.

There is also a concern among some ACC members that Florida State and Clemson will eventually be enticed to move to the Big 12 or SEC or that the Big Ten could sweep in for a few more teams to round its total to 16 teams.

Once Swofford can get a consensus to move on any of the options, the ACC is expected to act quickly in announcing its future plans.  Reportedly, the last vote taken had Louisville with the lead, but  was reportedly one vote short of making the move official.


By adding Tulane and East Carolina, the Big East now looks more like Conference USA than ever before. And if Louisville and UConn leave, there still remains a growing concern that the core group of 7 basketball schools will say enough is enough.


Boston College athletic director Brad Bates is expected to spend the rest of this week vetting potential  candidates as replacements for BC football coach Frank Spaziani who was fired on Sunday after four seasons….Two of those candidates–Kent State coach Darrell Hazell and Northern Illinois Coach Dave Doreen will be on display in Friday night’s Mid-American Conference championship game. Bates will probably head to New York early next week where an annual series of social activities in college football is held and talk to some more people.Although it seems unlikely that Miami coach Al Golden will leave the Hurricanes, Bates could make a run at Golden to see if the uncertainty of the penalties that Miami will receive from the NCAA will have any influence on his decision. Although Bates could make a decision quickly, it seems more likely it will be mid December until any final choice is made…Former UMass coach Mark Whipple and Harvard coach Tim Murphy also could be included in the search. Both would definitely listen to any overtures from Bates.

© 2012, Mark. All rights reserved.

  9 comments for “Big East expands; ACC ponders its next move

  1. Azbeartime
    November 27, 2012 at 8:38 pm

    I understand Cincinnati has finally joined Louisville and Connecticut in marketing itself to the ACC. They have a lot of positives and are in between UL and UConn in other areas. Not a bad choice if only one school is added.

  2. UConn fan
    November 27, 2012 at 7:45 pm

    I certainly have no reason to not believe the blog, and also find the vote breakdown by “David” in the comments to seem to be somewhat believable.

    But without sources being named, it does create some doubt – especially since it’s likely a BC-connected leak, and a lot of people at BC have been jealous of UConn’s massive sports success.

    But again, very reputable blogger, so I don’t necessarily doubt the information conveyed. Probably more doubts about the “source”.

    The ACC likely should add Louisville and UConn, and maybe Cincinnati, because it seems likely the four southernmost ACC teams may be willing to bolt to the SEC or Big 12, if invited.

  3. David
    November 27, 2012 at 5:44 pm

    How did the ACC vote this past weekend?

    Team Louisville
    – Florida State
    – Clemson
    – Miami
    – Virginia Tech
    – NC State
    – Boston College
    – Georgia Tech

    Team UConn
    – Duke
    – North Carolina
    – Virginia
    – Wake Forest

    Abstain: Maryland
    Non-Voters: Syracuse, Pittsburgh

    Seems like Louisville has the majority to me.

    • george
      November 27, 2012 at 8:41 pm

      ND gets a vote too. right?

      • Mark
        November 27, 2012 at 9:34 pm


  4. Mark Blaudschun
    November 27, 2012 at 4:36 pm

    Whipple and Murphy will run off to Vermont to get married before either one of them gets a call from BC.

    • Mark
      November 27, 2012 at 4:38 pm


  5. Ben Dover
    November 27, 2012 at 4:25 pm

    BC is not hiring Whipple or Murphy

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